The short answer is no and yes. Does Russian vine damage brickwork? The rootlets that allow it to cling to vertical surfaces may damage the mortar between bricks. I've seen to many walls where the ivy has done considerable damage. Ideally, the vine should be pruned and the roots trimmed the autumn before transplantation in early spring. Please be respectful when making a comment and adhere to our Community Guidelines. You must choose the right plant. Another concern about growing vines on siding is that they create moisture between the plant and home. Will wisteria damage the foundations of your house? Incongruous extensions are enhanced as the brickwork mellows under a facade of greenery. Although well-built masonry can tolerate the growth of ivy, weakened brick walls with crumbling mortar or loose bricks give ivy roots an opportunity to invade crevices. Find your bookmarks in your Independent Premium section, under my profile. I don't think it is capable of actually damaging a tree, but when it spreads widely it looks unsightly. Please continue to respect all commenters and create constructive debates. However, it turns out climbing plants actually protect against excessive humidity by keeping rain off the wall to start with. The ivy shoots grow away from sunlight, and tend to climb inside any crack or crevice in the wall, which can then cause structural damage as the shoots grow thick. For roof terraces and yards plant wistaria, clematis and passion flower in pots. But do climbing plants damage structures? When planted in a dry soil or soil that isn’t kept sufficiently moist, the vine can go into shock and die. Ivy is ideal for all-year coverage, but don't forget that once it has covered the eyesore it will carry on growing. Modern mortar is a bit stronger, but if your brick has any damage a self-climbing vine may not be right for you. Use the vine to hide unsightly fences structures or landscape features. Are you sure you want to mark this comment as inappropriate? I have rooted many cutting using the culled pieces. However, certain vines can damage building materials and necessary elements of homes. {{#verifyErrors}} {{message}} {{/verifyErrors}} {{^verifyErrors}} {{message}} {{/verifyErrors}}, Property: Invasion of the climbing plants, You may not agree with our views, or other users’, but please respond to them respectfully, Swearing, personal abuse, racism, sexism, homophobia and other discriminatory or inciteful language is not acceptable, Do not impersonate other users or reveal private information about third parties, We reserve the right to delete inappropriate posts and ban offending users without notification. It was also once believed that vines grown on walls could damage them through excessive humidity and it does seem logical that a wall covered in foliage would remain more humid than a wall exposed to the sun. The bricks will be unsightly if the vine is removed and you will need to use a wire brush or a small sander to clean the surface. Choose a well behaved vine suitable for the location (you didn't give us info on sun/shade/moist/dry, etc.). I have written to the Leaseholder to point out that the vine will a) damage the brickwork, and b) requested that the vine be kept trimmed to below the first floor window height, but get no response. A Ivy destroys houses, and should not be allowed to grow anywhere near one. The well-known house wall damager ivy climbs by growing little roots into the wall joints, russian vine will not do this. The best way to grow vines up a home is to grow them not directly on the home itself but on a support set about 6-8 inches out from the home’s siding. THE MOST spectacular house in my road came up for sale last year. Wistaria takes five to seven years to produce its spectacular flowers. The best thing to do is to call in an expert such as NEVER PAINT AGAIN who can professionally repair plant-damaged exterior walls, to British standards, and then apply a weatherproof protective external wall coating which will damp proof the house, restore any damage and make the exterior walls maintenance free. Read more about Ornamental Vines General Care. Whether growing by twining tendrils or sticky aerial roots, any vine will take advantage of small cracks or crevices to anchor themselves to the surface they are growing on. Equally, if you have a structure that you want to hide, although deciduous, the Russian Vine will quickly do this. 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Ivy is a woody stemmed, self-clinging climber that can grow quickly to cover fences, walls and buildings. This can lead to climbing vine damage to shingles and siding. Are you sure you want to delete this comment? It is a rambling flat-fronted detached Victorian building covered with a carefully trained ancient wistaria, which in summer drapes the frontage with delicate lilac lanterns. The existing Open Comments threads will continue to exist for those who do not subscribe to Independent Premium. From eye-catching to eyesore in an afternoon. Lack of watering is one of the most common mistakes gardeners make with wisteria. A frame of blossom round your front door may annoy you, but early January visitors will love it. Vines with sticky aerial roots can damage stucco, paint and already weakened brick or masonry. The vine doesn’t care if it grows over your car, or over your swimming pool, but most importantly, it doesn’t care if it grows under your home. Now we favour building preservation and rip them all down. Ivy is appreciated as an evergreen climbing plant and especially for its capacity to fully cover any wall or facade, but it can also be trained to cover defined spaces on a facade. In my outbuilding, it forced its way into cracks and did cause some damage. The best way to protect your historic building is to prevent the problem from the start by keeping thriving vines where they belong – in your garden. The Ivy did NOT hurt the brick or mortar HOWEVER it leaves hairlike cemented residue that we cannot remove. But it is useful on isolated buildings and will smother an eyesore with pale green foliage and greenish-white flower sprays. However, ivy also sheds rainwater and reduces the ", Read our full mailing list consent terms here. Modern materials have built-in waterproof characteristics, and if the plant is cut back at windows and gutters it is unlikely to cause problems. To the horror of all the local residents who had coveted the property, the buyers immediately removed its best feature to reveal an unrelenting drab grey exterior. Ivy (English Ivy) General Information. It is a cause for concern owing to its rapid pace of growth and worries about potential damage to the support structure. It will take over the whole garden and possibly the street if unchecked. For a longer-term view, wistaria, honeysuckle, clematis, rose or passion flower are more controllable and will not smother other plants. If you needed to remove it to inspect or repair the brick, pulling the ivy could actually damage the mortar. Later in the year, winter jasmine produces masses of white or yellow flowers. Wistaria evokes visions of pastel Regency homes, while the Victorians preferred creepers. Vines growing on the outside of a structure can also trap moisture, leading to seepage, wood rot, and other problems. It allows our most engaged readers to debate the big issues, share their own experiences, discuss real-world solutions, and more. There is no doubt that one of the most effective transformations of any building is a covering of green foliage which periodically erupts in blossom. A Russian Vine, unlike ivy, does not draw its nourishment from the tree. Excessive vine growth can exacerbate cracks in brick or mortar, or damage a home’s paint job. On older properties these twiners and ramblers will cause fewer problems; they need wire or trellis for support and are relatively separate from the building. Read more articles about Ornamental Vines General Care. Native to California, California grape (Vitis californica "Russian River") is a striking vine that thrives in Mediterranean-type climates. The vine does not damage mortar in brick or stone walls or structures. If the damage is severe, replacement may be warranted. The trick is to get the balance right. Any house can get a pick-up in spring and summer with window boxes, hanging baskets and pots. It must be one, if not the most accomodating climbing plant in the garden. Damage limitation? I wouldn't let it grow on the wall. Sign up to get all the latest gardening tips! Just be sure to monitor the area and keep new growth under control. You can use trellises, lattice, metal grids or mesh, strong wires or even string. The Russian Vine, in common with some other vigorous, climbing plants, can cause damage to structures. If the pointing on the brickwork is poor, a clothing of climbers that use self-supporting glue in the form of rootlets, is not a sensible choice. But make sure the structure is firmly fixed: a heavily covered trellis crashing to the ground is like a dozen tangled fishing nets. As expected, it sold in no time. Moisture can then find its way into the wall and freeze-thaw action or other moisture related events can occur resulting in damage. You’ll also need to frequently train and trim these vines even though they’re growing on supports. Vines with sticky aerial roots can damage stucco, paint and already weakened brick or masonry. Incongruous extensions are enhanced as the brickwork mellows under a facade of greenery. Jasmine flowers intermittently in summer and autumn, and planted with the winter variety you'll have colour even in the snow. The genus name Hedera is the Classical Latin word for ivy, which is cognate with Ancient Greek χανδάνω (khandánō) "to get, grasp", both deriving ultimately from Proto-Indo-European *gʰed- "to seize, grasp, take". But in autumn, a house covered with flaming red Virginia creeper takes some beating. How to have wall damage cured after removing invasive climbing plants. How do you trim a Mile a Minute Vine(Russian Vine or Silver Fleece Vine)? No it does not. Runaway vines can also facilitate an invasion of bugs, birds, or even small mammals. If you are dealing with vines growing on a brick house, there are some things you should know. ... its roots won't damage the foundations. Be sure to place any vine support at least 6-8 inches away from the home for proper air circulation. Also, its roots won't damage the foundations. But all these need annual pruning, not least to encourage blooms. Keep them cut back away from any gutters and shingles. Native to California, California grape (Vitis californica "Russian River") is a striking vine that thrives in Mediterranean-type climates. As for specifically harming your brick, I don't think it will cause any harm. Ivy self-climbs and inserts its roots into any crack or crevasse. 0 0. anash. A large detached country house may cope with a rampant honeysuckle, but a terraced cottage will be swamped. IF YOUR MORTAR IS IN GOOD SHAPE, most self clinging vines will not damage the brick. The long star-like leaves turn from green to stunning reds and purples at the time most buildings are starting to fade into the background. It will grow like fury, can reach the roof of a two storey house in one season, making its way up anything in reach such as drainpipes and aerial wires, around which it will wrap its stems. Vines with twining tendrils can be damaging to gutters, roofs and windows, as their small young tendrils will wrap around anything they can; but then as these tendrils age and grow bigger, they can actually distort and warp weak surfaces. Use the vine to hide unsightly fences structures or landscape features. Even if you are unable to spray the vine roots, cutting them will prevent damage. Want to bookmark your favourite articles and stories to read or reference later? Start your Independent Premium subscription today. The most insightful comments on all subjects will be published daily in dedicated articles. I keep getting conflicting advice as to whether it would cause any damage. Do you just cut it to the ground ? I'd suggest you monitor it every winter when leaves are gone....look closely at what rootlets are doing to brick and mortar. This growth on brick can potentially damage it by forcing root tendrils into the mortar joints. As one horticulturist put it: "You plant it and run for cover!". Plastic drainpipes, stack pipes and tanks will need netting or trellis even for self-clingers. By themselves, vines don’t really damage well built masonry, other than leaving tendrils that can be hard to clean off. Cut or tie back any stray tendrils that may be reaching for the home’s siding and, of course, also cut or tie back any that are growing out wildly away from the support. Uh-oh: Russian vine. Russian vine is a TWINING climber, like clematis. Considerable patience will be needed not to sacrifice the lot. Create a commenting name to join the debate, There are no Independent Premium comments yet - be the first to add your thoughts, There are no comments yet - be the first to add your thoughts. Etymology. Jasmine and winter honeysuckle have gorgeous scents. Fallopia baldschuanica, aka Russian vine, aka mile-a-minute, is a devil of a climber. Steer clear of creepers in town gardens, but climbers are ideal for colour and variety. To answer this question, you need to understand the consequences of leaving or removing plant growth. ... ADDED: NO it won't damage your brickwork - it has never damaged mine and mine is 7 years old now - just be wary of it growing into loft space though! Whether growing by twining tendrils or sticky aerial roots, any vine will take advantage of small cracks or crevices to anchor themselves to the surface they are growing on. The vine had grown up the chimney and was growing inside the chimney, not a good situation. ... its roots won't damage the foundations. This moisture can lead to mold, mildew and rot on the home itself. And if the structure is covered with ivy or vines, you may not notice it. For more on the benefits of ivy and how to grow it, see our page on Hedera. The biggest question is how do vines damage siding or shingles. Find more gardening information on Gardening Know How: Keep up to date with all that's happening in and around the garden. Although wisteria is remarkably adaptable, it does best in a fertile, moist soil environment. You can also choose to be emailed when someone replies to your comment. You can find our Community Guidelines in full here. Native to California, California grape (Vitis californica "Russian River") is a striking vine that thrives in Mediterranean-type climates. I have also spoken to the current tenant and even offered to pay for a professional gardener to keep it in check but he refuses to even consider it. Incongruous extensions are enhanced as the brickwork mellows under a facade of greenery. This can lead to climbing vine damage to shingles and siding. That ivy covered masonry of old was actually damaging. Lv 4. Yes, it does look pretty and it won't damage it fast, but over time it will damage your brick. A friend told me to push them in near the parent and they would almost certainly take. Ivy has always had a bad press - being self-clinging it digs into mortar and pulls off rendering. And, although it won't increase the value, it will certainly attract attention and may even clinch a sale out of season. Independent Premium Comments can be posted by members of our membership scheme, Independent Premium. So I guess the correct answer is you want to be sure you want it on there because even if you have great brick it will never look nice again once Ivy has grown up on it … Houses built with handmade stock bricks covered in trailing clematis blossom have a distinct advantage, but even the most drab 1960s-built aesthetic disaster can look chocolate-box if adorned with the right plant life. Often masonry will require repointing, and wooden elements may need repair or consolidation. However, the problem with homes built before 1930 is that the mortar may not contain Portland cement, which means that it is more likely to erode over time. Our journalists will try to respond by joining the threads when they can to create a true meeting of independent Premium. Hedera may thus be translated as "the clinging (plant)". Virginia creeper and Boston ivy are rampant climbers, responsible for probably the most dramatic transformations. If you’ve considered having vines growing on siding, continue reading to learn about possible damage vines can do and what you can do to prevent it. It encourages damp and supports a variety of animal life. It is my opinion that left unchecked this vine is invasive enough that it would damage the physical structure. Its growing rate is between 10 and 20ft a year. What you use should be based upon what vine you are growing, as certain vines can be heavier and denser than others. Most vines grow up surfaces either by sticky aerial roots or twining tendrils. If any damage becomes evident; you'll want to remove the trumpetvine. The Building Research Establishment booklet "Bird, Bee and Plant Damage to Buildings" reports: "Those concerned with the preservation of ancient buildings and churches are unanimous in the view that ivy should not be allowed to grow on walls. It can and probably will damage the brick over time. It is good to get vines away from the house structure, for they not only damage the walls but also create an environment for mold and mildew. The vine also has a spread of 50 feet, and it does not care how large your garden is; it will grow to its allotted 50 feet no matter whose garden it’s in. AB, by email. I had no idea! Due to the sheer scale of this comment community, we are not able to give each post the same level of attention, but we have preserved this area in the interests of open debate. Keep it trimmed away from window frames and the roof eaves. Newer houses most need the camouflage, and fortunately they cope far better with self-clingers such as ivy, creepers or climbing hydrangeas. Vines can slip beneath spaces in between siding and shingles and ultimately pull them away from the home. Personally I'd find something different to disguise the ugly pipes - put up trellising in front or around them and grow something you know wont wreak the wall given half a chance. The little roots are likely to penetrate into the mortar and push it apart. Want an ad-free experience?Subscribe to Independent Premium. Most notorious is the "mile-a-minute" Russian vine, sometimes sold to unsuspecting householders as polygonum baldschuanicum. Nothing is quite as picturesque as a house covered in English ivy. There is no good reason why a tree surgeon should not be able to cut back the Russian Vine with minimal if any damage … It can also lead to insect infestations. Discover more about the potential risks in this short video guide from BBC Gardeners' World Magazine. Sign up for our newsletter. I regularly cut mine back when I see it taking off in a direction not of my choosing and the flowers still keep coming. Tie up loose branches on moving day, then dig the wisteria, cutting a wide swath around the shrub to minimize root damage. In common with some other vigorous, climbing plants actually protect against excessive humidity keeping... 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